User talk:Vicki Rosenzweig

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I've archived a bunch of old talk from this page. --VR

More archiving, this of most of the current content. I'm not very active on Wikipedia these days, so please don't expect quick responses.

(And yes, this large, arbitrary archiving means that what's here is mostly one argument. ) Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 19:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Mis quoting sources[edit]

I really have a hard time believing that you prefer a version of an article that mis-quotes the 'sources' cited. I am sure you love Mr. Nicoll's 'dry wit' and his 'byword in fandom', but please keep such Original Research to fan pages outside of Wikipedia, and let the articles within Wikipedia contain reliably sourced, verifiable, and notable marterial. Thanks!207.69.137.27 15:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

No original research doesn't mean we can't use primary sources:
Point of information My tagging of OR and changes thereafter were based on the fact that the content of the 'source' was vastly different than the statements within the article. Taking the information that actually existed in the source and then extracting and embellishing to the extent of the statements that were within the article was the original research.
it means Wikipedia itself should not be a primary source, and we should think about what we're using them for, and why. If the question is what someone wrote, their own published writing is a reliable source. Or would you object to an article on William Shakespeare citing one of his sonnets rather than a literary critic's discussion thereof? Nor does the policy mean that online compilations are inherently unreliable: one question to ask about reliability is how the material was compiled, and another is whether the compilers had motivation for deception.
Also, I am trying hard to believe that your phrasing above was meant in good faith. Vicki Rosenzweig 17:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Were your claims of vandalism when returning to the misquoted citations in good faith???SavingJDNfromthefilk 12:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Transnational Radical Party[edit]

Transnational Radical Party, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Transnational Radical Party satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transnational Radical Party and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Transnational Radical Party during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. AvruchTalk 15:02, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

This posting was made automatically by Twinkle. For whatever reason, you showed as the creator (or first editor) of this article. TW notifies all article creators of an AfD using a generic AfD notification template. AvruchTalk 04:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
That makes sense. And in this case, there's no way of knowing who created it, so I can't point you at them. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 03:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

A Canticle for Leibowitz[edit]

Vicki, I see you've shown some interest in the A Canticle for Leibowitz article in the past. I'm interested in bringing it to GA status soon and am soliciting your help. A number of revisions have been made in the past few weeks to position it for a successful nomination process. Would you mind reviewing the article and making suggestions/changes to assist in the process? Any assistance you can provide will be appreciated. Thank you.
Jim Dunning | talk 03:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

CH and ll[edit]

Greetings, Vicky. You asked this. I gave my feelings on the issue. Regards, Pallida  Mors 22:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

RE:American Central University[edit]

See WP:MINOR Vandalism reverts are considered minor edits —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexfusco5 (talkcontribs) 02:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Early Infanticidal Childrearing[edit]

Remember that? A new editor, Cesar Tort, has done a major edit of the article and changed the title to Psychohistorical views on infanticide, but I still think it is highly problematic. I had a detailed exchange with him in which I set out my problems with the revised article and he responded, here - it would take some time to read through, but several years ago you had many valuable comments, and I would be grateful if you could look at the revised article and my comments, and those of others in sections below mine, and add your voice. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 12:53, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD's[edit]

I've just nominated American Freedom Coalition and World Association of Non-Governmental Organizations for deletion. Steve Dufour (talk) 23:10, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Your user page[edit]

Hi Vicki, I've gone ahead and history merged your user page, which I found while browsing some old Wikipedia edits. Hope you don't mind. Graham87 09:42, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge[edit]

I've just proposed merging Unification Church and antisemitism (which you worked on) into Divine Principle. Please join in the discussion, if you like. Steve Dufour (talk) 15:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion[edit]

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unification Church and antisemitismBorock (talk) 04:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Wheelchairs[edit]

Hello Vicki. I noticed you changed a lot of instances of "wheelchair-bound" into some variation of "wheelchair user". I don't know your reason for doing this, but I expect it is because you find wheelchair-bound to be somehow offensive/insensitive to wheelchair users. While "wheelchair users" is common to refer to people in a wheelchair, referring to the act of being in a wheelchair as "wheelchair-using", is not (at least not quite as common as wheelchair-bound). I've also never heard of the notion that wheelchair-bound has negative connotations, but I'd happily be proven wrong. I've reverted your edits where you changed to wheelchair-using and where I found that your version of the text was needlessly evasive with regards to the wheelchair. If you can convince me of the need to avoid all use of "wheelchair-bound", then I'll revert back to your version. Cheers, --Atlan (talk) 15:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

As I noted on your page, it's a combination of offensive and misleading: a wheelchair is not a prison, it is a device that increases the user's mobility and options. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 00:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I replied to you both on my talk page. In short, I'll accommodate by altering the text to something that doesn't say wheelchair-bound, rather than simply reverting myself. Bear with me though, it might take a few days as I'm rather busy right now. By the way, are you part of this campaign to rid Wikipedia of the term wheelchair bound?--Atlan (talk) 09:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Nothing that organized, but a friend of mine noted that she was working on this, and asked people she knows who are (or have been--I'm not very active these days) Wikipedia editors to help out, and I happened to have some free time. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 16:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm in a wheelchair, and although this is the first I ever considered the phrase, "bound" is slightly offensive for its negative connotation (in fact wheelchairs are quite liberating, considering the alternative). In the right context, where one is trying to emphasis negative connotations of being in a wheelchair, bound would be OK. For example "The wheelchair-bound man was trapped by stairs in the burning building" is better than "The wheelchair user was trapped by stairs". We have to be careful about removing a phrase entirely for political reasons without considering context; language is a great thing and Orwell taught us the dangers of limiting it for political purposes. However for NPOV Wikipedia purposes, bound is going to be rarely appropriate. Green Cardamom (talk) 07:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

King John[edit]

From wheelchairs to something completely different.. Many years ago you were the first to create the article John, King of England, back when Wikipedia was in its infancy, not unlike the early days of Anglo-Norman England, one could say. Well now it's NINE YEARS later (feeling old?) and guess what.. the seed of the article has evolved and now is currently under review for Featured Article status (and what a great article). Thought you'd be interested since you started it off. Green Cardamom (talk) 07:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

MSU Interview[edit]

Dear Vicki Rosenzweig,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
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  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.


Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar

Invitation to join the Ten Year Society[edit]

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Dear Vicki,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more.

Best regards, — Hex (❝?!❞) 11:19, 22 November 2012 (UTC).

Cool! (and, congrats!) Wikipedia serves as somewhat of a reminder -- to me, at least -- that a lot can happen in 10 years. :-) --Mike Schwartz (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Aristotle for deletion[edit]

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Since I don't know whether this edit counts as an action, am now going to poke at my watchlist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicki Rosenzweig (talkcontribs) 00:47, January 1, 2016 (UTC)
Good to see you still here. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Prescription_drug_prices_in_the_United_States#Proposal_to_fork_some_content_into_general_article_for_.22drug_prices.22 User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:54, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Vicki Rosenzweig.

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If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:48, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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